I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. Remember The3DStudio? I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. Site issues? We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. You are just providing a platform." CGtrader has already surpassed Turbosquid in every Rank, and it has +1 million visits too: https://www.similarweb.com/website/cgtrader.com/?competitors=turbosquid.com, If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. my main income its still TS. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. Money rules! Same for me, here. Site issues? this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. It's true. Escorts jaipur 2. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. Change Method. [13google->http://www.google.com/] Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. Some points for and against. Cgtrader user interface is much more user friendly. If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. Hopefully that would make squids to react. I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. Needed something better and found it at CGt. These changes are part of the new TurboSquid Best Price Guarantee (https://resources.squid.io/?p=14893) in which we are assuring TurboSquid customers that they can always find the lowest prices on our site. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. I am getting more sales on Cgtrader than TS though :P and CGtrader is easier to use. http://rebloggy.com/post/art-copyright-turbosquid-infringement-kouotsu-ip-theft-kouotsu/34732573054 I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. Reputation for promptly fixing problems? This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". captainmarlowe is right. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? . He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. 60% is an insult. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. People are followers they have always been and always will be. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. It is all about customer reputation and perception. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . Sometimes you have to support the buyer. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! In place already. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). --GENERAL--. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? Not artist friendly at all, from uploading to statistics (Model views, downloads, and so on). Thanks once again! Chat with Support 24/7 And yes .. "CG Trader has made their world about 3d printing". So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) After 60 days, we will put your content back online. Turbosquid.com4. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. Turbosquid just has it backwards. That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. You can upload a 20 mb large model here with 3 formats, 20 photos, 100 wording text, 20 tags in around 20 minutes. Ps. What? I removed all products from TS. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. Since then, I think the design has gotten much better, especially the separation between regular CG and 3D print, and the search algorithm seems also to be much more efficient.
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